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GRAN TURISMO 4 ALL THINGS GOOD & BAD
Sorry Kazunori, Polyphony, Sony, the gaming industry, power companies, governments and extra terrestrials; but this page has to be made after discovering a few things not quite right in the game (for me personally - since i'm me and you're not). But instead of making it just a page of negatives, i've included good things about GT4 as well for a counterbalance. Because i'm a nice person like that.

Obviously there are good things about the game, but there will always be bad things too. But the worst thing about GT4? MY CARS AREN'T IN IT!!!!! Of course anyone else whose car isn't in the game will know how i feel. I know you'd love nothing more that for my cars to be in this game, and i sincerely thank you for your support and selflessness. Of course you could always have wanted your car or cars in the game, but choose to wish for my ones instead. I am greatly honoured, don't be skeptical/doubtful for a second. It really does mean a lot. :)

Bolded things (<<< apart from that) i feel most strongly about. SHORT OF SHOUTING THEM, i found that bolded text does that same job for half the price. What? I shouldn't be paying anyone to put bold or SHOUTY text on a webpage? I think i've been scammed... :(

For those reading this now, i wrote this list in 2006 or earlier, things have changed since then. Like the mess in your bedroom, the calendars and most importantly, the intelligence of human beings (in both directions...).

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BAD THINGS (50)

1. The race results screen only stays on screen for about 15 seconds then disappears regardless of whether the other cars have passed the finish line or not. Put it back to the way it was in GT2 please, i want to know how far behind the AI cars are!
2. No R32 Skyline GTS-4 sedan (noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *starts crying*)
3. No non GT-R R33 or (road version) R34 Skylines (i.e. GTS-25t, GT-T, GT-FOUR etc)
4. Not many R30 or R31 Skylines
5. Not enough R32 Skylines (i want the GXi, GTE, GTS and GTS-4!)
6. No Ferrari
7. No Porsche
8. No Lamborghini
9. No Venturi
10. No Vector
11. No Maserati
12. No Bentley road cars
13. No Lister road cars
14. Not many Shelby's
15. No Tommy Kaira Skylines!!! (quite disappointed about that)
16. No Mine's R32 GT-R
17. No 'common' Mustang models (i.e 2004 to the first 'Stang - excluding the Cobra R and Shelby GT 350)
18. No 'common' Pontiac Firebirds/Trans-am's
19. Not very many RUF's (but more than happy with the selection - especially the BTR and Yellow Bird)
20. No Viper RT/10 (my brother is especially disappointed about this as he doesn't like the SRT/10) - no-one has this car in videogames anymore!
21. No Viper ACR
22. Still no blue, yellow etc colour's for the Viper GTS
23. Can't change wheel sizes
24. Exhausts never visually change when buying new ones
25. Rear spoilers only come in one size - huge. Should be a few smaller ones because on some cars they look WAY wrong. Not ungrateful though - was a surprise/delight to find out you could do this!
26. Can't sort cars in the garage by mileage anymore (grrrrr)
27. Some game stats seem to have disappeared (i like stats so this isn't a good thing for me)
28. No race body mods
29. Still no 'settable' course record like in GT1
30. Qualifying seems to have been left out? Officially anyway.
31. Too many songs to listen to! (just kidding!!)
32. Cars still don't get dirty, just dull/non shiny
33. AI cars (enough said. But they are better than any other Gran Turismo - nothing like going full bore around a blind corner on the Nurburgring to find a spun out TVR Cerbera Speed 12 blocking the road. I find it fun to try avoid stuff like that!)
34. No Motorsports Land (Motorland is good PD, but nothing can replace this classic!)
35. No Red Rock Valley Speedway
36. No Grindelwald
37. Not that i'm ungrateful but five Australian cars still really isn't enough! There's heaps of awesome cars over here.
38. Can't fit turbo's to some cars (i wanted my R32 GTS-25 to have more power)
39. Cars cannot be tuned (horsepower) to the high levels of GT3 anymore - which is in fact unrealistic as there are 1,000 hp R32 Skyline GT-R's cruising the streets, so it can be done Polyphony...
40. Still no 3-5 km straight stretch of road for testing top speed of cars - but i take that back after unlocking the Circuit de la Sarthe II. 6 km Hunaudieres Straight with no chicanes!!
41. Only one drag strip, which can only be raced on one side... (um...)
42. No drag cars (i wanted the HKS R33 GT-R! and the Heat Treatments R32 GT-R Drag Car (New Zealand))
43. Time of day/lighting on tracks still does not change
44. Not many wet tracks (i.e. one)
45. Nissan Skyline car sounds now seem to be the worst they have ever been in Gran Turismo - which has partially ruined the game for me. There wasn't anything really wrong with them in GT3, but now they can sound like four cylinders/Honda V-tecs... (with different exhausts on you can notice it more) - the R32 GTS-t being by far the worst offender
46. Blow off valves and turbo whine cannot be heard in replays or the behind car view
47. No drag racing events
48. Las Vegas Drag Strip cannot be used in two player mode
49. Drifting seems to be harder in this game? Harder to hold a drift than GT3 anyway
50. Photomode camera's shouldn't have boundaries, or less restricting ones anyway - you should be able to put the camera wherever you want (within reason)

If you're reading this, haven't played Gran Turismo 4 and are doubtful about doing so then please keep reading as it just gets better from here on!! Still well worth your money!

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GOOD THINGS (55) 

1. Car detail
2. Car handling
3. Car physics/handling
4. Redesigned/improved racetracks
5. BMW M3!!
6. BMW M3 CSL!!!!!! (thank you!!)
7. FPV F6 Typhoon!! (w00t!! - only PD can get these cars looking correct *cough* Need for Speed *cough*)
8. FPV GT!!! (*faints*)
9. Holden Monaro SV8!
10. Holden Commodore SS!
11. Mercedes-McLaren SLR!! (was a BIG surprise to see this)
12. New 'roof' camera view!! Thank you PD, i always seem to do better in car games with this view!
13. El Capitan. Most definitely the most amazingly realistic looking track ever - the scenery is just so awesome!
14. The new High-Speed Ring. I really like this new version as it lives up to it's name now more than it ever has.
15. The modified Midfield Raceway. Love the see-through tunnel and how some of the corners have now been straightened or tightened.
16. The Modified Deep Forest Raceway. Despite there not being much of a forest anymore (which was a surprise) the new version is quite good and looks heaps better.
17. The updated Laguna Seca. Finally this course is updated to the way it is now in real life. Instead of the boxed in circuit of Gran Turismo old, this version has heaps more run off and the corkscrew has been improved too.
18. The updated Apricot Hill. No major track changes have been made here because it didn't need any. But scenery has had an overhaul and looks much better for it.
19. The updated Cote 'D Azur. With GT4's new '3D' scenery design this track looks nothing short of spectacular - especially coming out of the tunnel on the back straight. It is not the new (2004 F1 race track) version of this track however.
20. The updated Special Stage Route 5. Basically only the scenery has changed in this along with a few new ripple strips etc. The big grandstand that has always covered pit lane has now gone in place of new smaller ones which don't cover anything.
21. The updated Clubman Stage Route 5. As above only the scenery has changed, a new view of a harbour in the distance looks pretty darn good.
22. The updated Grand Valley Speedway. This track now looks VERY impressive and is a contender for the most realistic looking GT track ever! The extended see through section of the last tunnel improves that part of the track vastly.
23. The updated Grand Valley East Section. As above this track now looks very impressive, the small one is still fun.
24. The updated Swiss Alps. Mainly just track width and scenery has changed but in some places the scenery has changed so much it looks like a completely different track!
25. The updated Tokyo R246. Basically it looks a lot more realistic now and the lighting has also changed (track is a lot brighter like midday/noon).
26. The updated Seattle Circuit. Looks more realistic now and there are more surface types than before (i think?).
27. The updated Test Course. At last there are more things to look at as the scenery has had an overhaul. Along the first corner there is a line of pylons which runs alongside a motorway/highway (something with lots of street lights anyway).
28. Used cars now have mileage on them (i.e. 90,109 km's, 45,682 km's or the very rare 10.0 km's), cars also seemed to be priced according to the mileage on them.
29. Used wheels shop. Do you want R34 Skyline GT-R wheels for your Mazda RX-8? What about FPV F6 Typhoon wheels for your Aston Martin DB9? In this shop you can find wheels from all the other cars for sale. Lineup changes daily!
30. Used cars changes weekly
31. Used cars are split into three groups, 1980's/classics, 1990-1995, 1995-2000+.
32. You won't find just Japanese cars in the used car sections. Chevrolet Camaro's & Corvettes. Alfa Romeo's. Ford Taurus, Mustang. TVR Speed 6, Griffith. Lotus Elise, Carlton. Jaguar XKR. Aston Martin V8 Vantage and heaps more from other countries now appear randomly. Some may only show up very, very rarely (like the Corvette Grand Sport).
33. Honda V-tec'ed cars now sound MUCH better. Especially the race cars. *drool*
34. Shelby Cobra/AC Ace now sounds awesome with a deep, bassy rumble.
35. Most of the V8 cars sound decent now, unlike most in GT2.
36. RUF's now sound better (most of them anyway).
37. You can hear the turbo whine and blow off valves! But only in the roof & driver views.
38. Replay's (WOW! Basically every single replay on every track looks so realistic its not even funny!!!)
39. Tyre screeching sounds are now very realistic, even more so than the TOCA/V8 Supercar/DTM & Need for Speed games.
40. I'm loving the new menu designs
41. And really love the new menu music (mind you, Polyphony have always had awesome menu music in all GT's)
43. Photo Mode is slowly becoming addictive!
44. Love the new car wash and how the two guys clean the wheels and windows!
45. Also love the new oil change how the car lifts up and the guy goes under and changes it!
46. Starting to like and use B-Spec mode more now (my driver still has trouble winning races though but is improving)
47. The Mazda RX-7's now sound like they do have rotary engines in them!
48. Circuit de la Sarthe II. The old version of Le Mans - where the Mercedes CLK GTR and Porsche 911 GT1 both flipped down the hugely long 6 km Hunaudieres Straight (i think). Try to replicate that on this track!
49. Nurburgring Nordschleife. Need i really say any more?
50. The Corvette C5-R now at least sounds growlier than it did in GT3.
51. BMW M3 CSL around the Nurburgring. What a challenge! Seriously good fun though!
52. Opera Paris. One of the most fun street courses primarily for the fact that the surface is very uneven - which is said in game to be because of real life water drainage considerations. Awesome fun in fast cars.
53. Classical music in the game. I really like almost all of the fifteen or so classics from Mozart, Bach, Chopin etc!
54. Jukebox. Makes it much easier to sort out all the 94 songs!
55. The ability to upload Photomode pics directly to your computer via. USB!!!

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